The Kiev authorities told the townspeople how it is profitable to live without hot water.
As you know, "not everyone can look into tomorrow," so when hot water is connected in Kiev, no one knows, not even the city administration. But the lack of this water, it turns out, allowed the people of Kiev to save from 1.5 to 3.6 thousand hryvnia. This useful information Petr Panteleev, deputy head of the Kiev city administration, shared with one of the Ukrainian media.
"If a person consumes on average 2-3 cubic meters per month, then a family of three, which has been without hot water since May, has saved 3-3.6 thousand hryvnias,"- quotes the vice-mayor "Ukrainian truth".
According to his calculations, those residents of Kiev who have been left without hot water since August (Obolon, Troyeshina, part of Podil) were able to ultimately save as much as 1.5 thousand hryvnias. Apparently, the official believes that the people of Kiev will continue to enjoy the same "advantageous" existence, since the exact date of hot water supply remains unknown.
At the same time, the politician noted that if hot water is still given, it will lead to emergency situations, since the pipes are rusted. Therefore, it is better not to give it. "A months-long lack of hot water in the networks has led to an increase in the level of corrosion of pipelines. And this can lead to emergency situations during the recovery of the coolant,"- said Panteleev.
In Kiev, there has been no hot water almost since May, while in some areas it is still not available. The words about the "benefit" from her absence from the lips of the deputy Vitali Klitschko are commented on in social networks with counter offers. For example, if you give up food or light, the savings will be even greater.
"Klitschko's associates clearly explained to the people of Kiev how advantageous the absence of hot water is for them: they say, the savings are big. It remains to prove how profitable it is to live without gas, without electricity and without heating - and a" bright European future "will come, for which the Maidan was jumping!"- Vladimir Kornilov is indignant
"It's better to live in a cave - you don't have to pay for it. You don't have to buy clothes either," - offers Maxim.
"It is still profitable not to eat. At least half of the family budget can be saved," - Supports @immortalchess.
"If they do not eat, then toilets are not needed, water saving, which means the country's economy will go up. Klitschko is a genius." , - summarizes @lopryt.
The mayor of the city, Vitali Klitschko, recently decided to answer the question about the lack of hot water supply in the city with a joke.
“They say that Klitschko turned off the taps and turned off the hot water. Sorry, I'm starting to joke again.- he declared.
At the same time, when Klitschko was asked how he himself does without hot water, the mayor of Kiev replied that he "has a boiler" and advised the townspeople to follow his example.
"Before, everyone had a central water supply ... But we all want independence in this direction. If there is hot water - very good, if not - you can turn on the boiler",- summed up Vitali Klitschko.
If you wanted independence - get it. independence from central water supply, and from hot water too. The mayor's "advice" was greeted with great enthusiasm on social media.
"Vitalik Cicero Klitschko:" Previously, everyone had a centralized water supply. And we are all dependent on supplies, but we are all trying to be independent in this direction. There is hot water - very good, if not - you can turn on the boiler "
Now you know everything about independence ", ironically Yulia Vityazeva
"- Will you come?
Well I do not know
I have a boiler ....
Not a word more, I'm leaving! "= Anch's new anecdote is immediately born.
How can we not recall other constructive proposals of the head of Kiev regarding heating season... For example, several years ago he urged citizens to switch to "alternative sources" of heating, in particular, firewood. Then he shared with journalists his "hot water recipe".
"We can provide hot water. To turn cold water into hot water, it must be heated," Klitschko said.
And in the summer of 2014, the mayor of the Ukrainian capital called on the townspeople to "get ready for the land."
"I ask each of the Kievites to treat this problem with understanding, and I would also ask all Kievans to address the problem of heat conservation and preparation for the land with a special component,"- with difficulty he uttered.
Well, with the prospect of winter without hot water, perhaps only that remains.
The only thing that the mayor's office could say in this regard is that hot water supply in Kiev will begin after the approval of the Economic Court of the amicable agreement between Naftogaz and Kievteploenergo.
That's why...
If Putin turns on hot water in Kiev, half of Kiev will vote for him in the elections, "ATO veteran" Konstantin Leleka is sure. The Ukrainian militarist expressed this opinion in the context that no one will defend Kiev anymore.
“If suddenly, from the side of Belarus, Russian tanks really go to Kiev, then what, everything will be like in 2014? will run for flowers - meet these tanks, and the other half, who are patriots, will defend themselves on Facebook, but not even from their own pages, so that the data will not shine.
And in general, if tomorrow Putin announces that he will turn on hot water for the people of Kiev, then the day after tomorrow most of Kiev will vote for him in the presidential elections in Ukraine. What kind of defense can we talk about in general? Now is a completely different time. "
Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko often speaks to Russia - "just keep it simple," but his statements, as we see, do not warm the residents of the capital of the "European state" very much. These statements can neither wash the dishes, nor take a shower, in contrast to the warm water, which, as we see, takes the city. I wonder if Putin makes a dollar to Ukrainians for 16 hryvnias, will they elect him as president until the end of their days?
This is what the life-giving cross and hot water do!
Somewhere they raise a red flag, the adviser of the Ministry of Internal Affairs calls the president m *** com, the commander-in-chief of the Naval Forces of Ukraine complains about the collapse of the fleet, the Khokhloments beat Bandera and ATO officers ...
Some kind of indistinct premonition .... I will repeat, perhaps ... From the distant 2014, but I look, but it does not lose its relevance. On the contrary ... Well, humor is also possible.
But in general, this serious opus was written by me under the yoke of worries about the fate of mankind.
"The ghost of Nuremberg hovered over Europe. The inhabitants of Gotham woke up, timidly sticking out wet noses from under damp blankets, tormented by a dilemma - either sniffing and sucking in the already familiar timid and transparent snot, or taking courage and throwing out all the foolishness, spewing doubts and worries.Feel truly free, not risking pupating there under the blanket from the smell of freedom.
But, damn, I don't understand, I-I-tno, sho for the era outside the window and what slogans are in vogue now ... But it is clear the number of days in the calendar and, most importantly, hey, hey, the number of WINTER days .... Damn Muscovites ....
The love of freedom prevailed and, overcoming their aversion to the cold, the citizens of Gotem got out of bed, still holding back the urge to express their will, and thoughtfully poked the tap with a gnarled finger - more out of habit than in hope. The hairy ear froze in anticipation of the news from the pipe about the approaching streams of cleanliness and warmth ....
But reality mercilessly reminded of itself with an irresistible desire to express the will and drove into the street - the longed-for action demanded an understanding of the current moment. Already yes, or not yet ... Citizens trudged awkwardly to the city square, carefully carrying civil law, which was hardly restrained, but not yet realized, and looked longingly at the color of the flag on the spire ...
But he was still the same. Damn the Muscovites ... Well, won’t it take so long ... do not go? .. "
Sergey Alexandrov /
The practice of turning off hot water in Kiev in the summer months has long become familiar to residents of the capital. But this summer, the lack of hot water has become a massive problem. And it is connected not only with traditional pipe repairs.
In the summer of 2018, a third of Kiev residents were held hostage by a debt dispute between the capital's mayor's office, Naftogaz under the leadership of Andrey Kobolev and the Kyivenergo company controlled by Rinat Akhmetov. While they are deciding which of them and to whom owes money, residents of the capital are left without hot water and with the prospect of being left without heat in winter.
The journalists of Channel 24 figured out what happened, who is to blame and what to do about it.
Is there no hot water everywhere in Kiev?
Now - not everywhere. So far, without hot water in Kiev, there are about 3 thousand houses (about a third of the entire capital). But very soon - after August 1 - there is a risk that hot water will disappear from all the capital's houses.
The company "Kyivenergo", which has been owned by Rinat Akhmetov for the last seven years, has been managing the heating industry in Kiev and has been supplying hot water and heating to the people of Kiev since 2001. At the end of April this year, the agreement with Kyivenergo expired. The Kiev authorities decided not to renew it. Officially, because Kyivenergo was ineffective. Therefore, from May 1, heating networks, heating points, boiler houses and meters were transferred to the newly created communal enterprise "Kievteploenergo". CHP-5 and CHP-6, together with the Energia incineration plant, will remain in the management of Kyivenergo until August.
CHPP-5 supplies hot water for residents of the city center, Rusanovka, Poznyakov, Bereznyakov, Teremkov, Lobanovsky Avenue, Chokolovka, parts of Pechersk and Borschagovka. CHP-6 - for Troyeshchina, Lesnoy, Severo-Brovarsky, Voskresenka, Vinogradar and part of Obolon. The Energia waste incineration plant supplies hot water to several hundred houses in Poznyaki.
Those houses that could not be connected to either CHP-5, CHP-6, or Energia were provided hot water thanks to a number of boiler houses in Svyatoshinsky, Shevchenkovsky, Solomensky, Podolsky, Goloseevsky, part of Obolonsky, Darnitsky and Pechersky districts. These boiler houses themselves were the first to be taken on the balance sheet and stopped.
Why did it happen?
In short, because Kyivenergo had an agreement with Naftogaz on gas supply, but Kievteploenergo did not. And Naftogaz refuses to conclude an agreement with him. Therefore, "Kievteploenergo", which is supposed to provide the people of Kiev with heat, hot water and electricity, does not receive gas.
Why doesn't it get? Everything is confusing here, but let's try to explain it as simply as possible. Because Naftogaz refuses to sign contracts for the supply of gas with Kievteploenergo because of the billion-dollar debt of Akhmetov's company. The logic of "Naftogaz" is as follows: whoever has assets, then undertakes to pay off debts. Kyivenergo completed the previous heating season with more than UAH 5 billion in debt to Naftogaz. When the management of the heat economy of the capital was transferred from Kyivenergo to Kievteploenergo, these debts were transferred with it. And until they are paid off, Naftogaz refuses to conclude an agreement on gas supply to Kievteploenergo.
Is Akhmetov really to blame for the lack of water?
Partially. The parties are trying to sort out this dispute in court. The Kiev Economic Court did not satisfy the statement of the Kyivenergo energy company to replace the debtor with the Kievteploenergo utility company.
The court ordered Akhmetov's company to pay Naftogaz 170 million hryvnia. However, this decision will not return hot water to the people of Kiev. After all, Akhmetov was ordered to pay only 4% of the debt that Naftogaz counted for his successors. And the monopolist promises to provide fuel only after paying the entire amount - almost 5 billion hryvnia. Because, we recall, Naftogaz insists that together with the property of Kyivenergo, Kyivteploenergo received all the debts.
The capital's authorities, meanwhile, note that such demands of Naftogaz contradict both the Constitution of Ukraine and the norms of international law. They, as the KSCA insist, are unfair in relation to the community of Kiev, because by means of the residents of the city of Kiev they are forced to pay off debts, including fines and penalties charged to another structure. The city authorities are demanding to return gas to heat generation facilities, allowing the resumption of hot water supplies to the Kievites, and to resolve the issue of debts without affecting the city's life. The issue of the constitutionality of Naftogaz's claims to recognize Kievteploenergo as the legal successor of Kyivenergo's debt obligations will be decided by the Supreme Court. Meanwhile, the people of Kiev remain hostages of this dispute.
When will hot water be returned to Kiev?
Press secretary of the deputy chairman of the Kyiv City State Administration Petr Panteleev Yulia Literatnaya explained to Channel 24 that now the answer to this question depends entirely on whether Naftogaz Ukrainy will show flexibility in negotiations with the capital's authorities on gas supplies.
The situation is very serious indeed. After August 1, we take over the management of CHP-5 and CHP-6 - the largest CHP plants in Ukraine, which are engaged in the production of heat and electricity. They will hardly work fully without gas. Not only are we left without thermal energy, that is, without hot water, we also expose our city to interruptions and with electricity,
- said Literate.
What should the people of Kiev do?
Wait and believe. Everyone who is possible is already involved in solving this issue: people's deputies, the National Commission for state regulation in the field of energy and utilities, government representatives, the supervisory board of Naftogaz, the prime minister, and the president. However, until the parties find out on whose shoulders the billions in debts will fall, residents of the city should not rely on the availability of hot water.
What are the ways to solve the problem?
One of possible options- restructuring of Kyivenergo's debt until 2021, which will become possible only after the final amount of the debt has been agreed upon.
Andrey Chubik, Executive Director of the Strategy XX Center for Global Studies, explained to Channel 24 that this is exactly the case when the capital's management and Naftogaz should join their efforts to force DTEK to pay off the debt that arose during the period of their responsibility for heat supply ... Here, according to him, it is also important to involve representatives of the Secretariat of the CMU in order to coordinate this work and inform the Prime Minister.
This precedent can become a valuable example of how it is necessary to resolve the issue with the fuel and energy complex within the whole country and prevent financial losses from state-owned companies and state and local budgets for the dishonest work of private tenants of public utilities,
He added.
In his video message, which he posted on his Facebook page.
"Kiev finally receives gas and began supplying hot water to more than 3,000 houses where it has not been available for several months," Klitschko noted. those that did not work, "the mayor of the capital stressed.
According to him, hot water is already being supplied to residents of Troyeshchyna, Lesnoy massif, and from today - to Obolon and Podol.
“We are also starting the technological process of launching the heating system. Planned, we need at least 10 days to supply heat to all houses and institutions of the capital,” Klitschko said.
Vitali Klitschko also urged the people of Kiev to take a responsible attitude to the issue of heat and energy saving, to close windows and doors in the entrances.
We will remind, last week Vitali Klitschko said on TV that.
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In Kiev, the timing of the inclusion of hot water has shifted again. The city has been sitting without it for a month now, and many districts of the capital have not seen hot water for the whole summer. Not "warmed up" on Independence Day, although such promises were made.
The authorities' promises to resume hot water supply have been postponed several times. At the end of August, Mayor Vitali Klitschko promised to "definitely" turn on the water until September 15th. Just a few days later, on September 3, he announced that it would take two weeks, shifting the deadline to September 17.
Yesterday the first "deadline" of Klitschko passed, tomorrow comes the second. And in the capital of the state, which produces its own gas for heating water, 3000 houses are outside of civilization.
Experts believe that hot water may appear closer to winter, or rather, from the beginning of the heating season. According to Valentin Zemlyansky, an expert on energy issues, Kiev residents can do without hot water in the summer. He said that centralized hot water supply is quite expensive, and besides, the current problems with Naftogaz were superimposed on this issue.
By the way, Kiev is not the only city that has faced the problem of hot water. A similar situation has developed in Kharkov. There city heating networks promised to return hot water three times already - on September 11, September 15 and September 17. However, on September 18, she never appeared in the taps.
Why don't they heat the water
Problems with hot water haunt Vitali Klitschko from the first year of his election as mayor.
In 2014, the people of Kiev washed themselves cold for almost the entire September. The mayor then gave rise to the famous meme that "in order for the water to become hot, it must be heated."
In 2017, the Kiev authorities began a conflict with the Kyivenergo company, and in 2018 it officially left the capital's heat power market. KSCA has created a new company - "Kievteploenergo".
True, the state does not sell gas to it - Naftogaz first demands from the mayor's office to pay off more than three billion hryvnias of the previous supplier's debt. 2.6 billion of them are Kiev residents' debts to Kyivenergo, the rest is a state subsidy, which has not reached Naftogaz either.
By the way, Petro Poroshenko also decided to promote himself on the topic of hot water: he proposed to allocate this subvention from the 2018 budget, where changes need to be made.
Be that as it may, on September 11, the Kyiv City Council agreed to take over all the debts, but now bargaining has begun to reduce the amount of debt, the abolition of a billion-dollar fine and fines. "Naftogaz" naturally resists.
Simply put, the issue has not yet been settled, although some progress has begun. Meanwhile, the Kievites are "tempered" under a cold shower.
"Kievans need to wait a bit"
"Evening on September 15. How are you, people of Kiev ?! What's with the water ?!" - Alexey Kucherenko, ex-minister of housing and communal services, wrote on Facebook yesterday.
In the comments, he was told that there is still no hot water in Pechersk, in the Shevchenko district, in the densely populated Obolon and in the Kharkov massif. At the same time, water appeared in certain sections of Pobedy Avenue.
Today Kucherenko wrote an ironic post that "the people of Kiev need to wait a bit" until a solemn event is prepared for Poroshenko to return water to the capital.
"Very reliable information from the AP.
Kievans just need to wait a little.
Since the president said that it was he who was returning hot water to Kiev, now they are preparing a large solemn event with his participation.
There are minor problems with deputies from the regions who do not really understand why they should vote for the allocation of UAH 730 million to pay off Kyivenergo's debts at the expense of general funds the state budget.
At the same time, they are frantically looking for a place to install a memorial sign and cut the ribbon.
Moreover, the issue of establishing a new city holiday - the Day of DHW (hot water supply. - Ed.)".
Journalist Sonya Koshkina writes that there has been no hot water in the Shevchenko district of Kiev for four months.
"Fight against corruption, European integration, fair trial ...
All this is wonderful. Meanwhile, in the hero city of Kiev (at least in the central Shevchenko district) for the fourth month (since the beginning of June) there is no hot water!
Yes, I have a boiler.
But it's enough for a shower. For one person. On the bathroom (regular) - up to half. All friends living in the center have the same thing.
And I started to wash the dishes with cold water (yes, I do it with my hands. There is a dishwasher, but it performs an important function - bags are stored in it))).
Swung! What, one wonders, devil?!? More than three months of prophylaxis? Seriously? Evil is not enough. "
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Marketer Iryna Fedorenko believes that the authorities need the ups and downs with hot water so that the people of Kiev are ready to pay any money for it.
"First, let me try. Show how cool it is. Day by day it will become a habit and gradually turn into a vital necessity. Gradually raise the price, it is not so easy to give up the habit. Take it. Show everyone who is in charge here, I want - I give, I want - They will suffer, wait, look for a replacement, turn to shamans and beat a tambourine - but this is the maximum, in the end, tortured dirty people will be ready for Anything, just to get it again, just to return it! , so that at least it was.
Legends about hot water in the capital ".
Blogger Vadim Diduk is outraged that the people of Kiev are still ready to vote for Klitschko: "Beat, crash, destroy small businesses, raise fares, don't give hot water, flood the streets with rain, don't build a metro, but we will choose him out of spite anyway."
For more than one year, residents of Kiev have been suffering from the lack of hot water in the capital and the region. But the other day the mayor of Kiev, Vitali Klitschko, said that the lack of hot water in the city has its advantages. According to the latest data, Kiev has managed to save from the beginning of May from 1.5 to 3.6 thousand hryvnia due to the lack of hot water. This information was also confirmed by Pyotr Panteleev, who holds the post of deputy head of the Kiev administration.
When will hot water be available in Kiev?
The Kiev authorities are very pleased with the fact that they manage to save the state budget due to the lack of hot water in the city, but no one thought about the people. How can they live without hot water? At the same time, the deputy head of the Kiev administration, Pyotr Panteleev, clarified that people still heated water on gas or electronic stoves and paid for gas or electricity.
“If a person consumes on average two, three cubic meters a month, then a family of three, which has been without hot water since May, saved 3-3.6 thousand hryvnias. Kievans who have been left without hot water since August (Obolon, Troyeshchyna, part of Podil) saved one and a half thousand hryvnias ”,- said Panteleev.
Also, the Kiev official said that they intend to resume the supply of hot water after the court approves the agreement between Naftogaz and Kievteploenergo. Panteleev noted that Kiev will return "Naftogaz" 2.3 billion hryvnia of debt. But at the same time Kiev will not pay fines and penalties.
Earlier, on October 5, Vitali Klitschko, who holds the post of mayor of Kiev, talked about the fact that the townspeople are forced to do without hot water, since the work of the central water supply depends on gas supplies, with which difficulties arose.
“They say that Klitschko turned off the taps and turned off the hot water. Sorry, I'm starting to joke again. What does it take to get cold water hot? Warm up. And how do we heat the water? Gas. And they don't give us gas now, ”- stressed Klitschko.
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